Voting down “real” Jesus


The Getty Center, taken 30 May 2012

Excerpted from, why yes, a letter to a friend, written 3 June 2013…

Thought of you a lot while waiting for the 761 to the Getty yesterday.  The question has been raised by various people at various times lately, and specifically in a small group study I attended last week: Which is preferable, “real” flesh & blood Jesus, or the Holy Spirit?

I always have the “wrong” answer.  I always vote down Jesus, well “real” Jesus.

People tend to think “real” Jesus would be better, because “real” Jesus would somehow automatically be spending all his time with just them.  That’s even worse, because if Jesus is with me, there are billions of people other than me in the world that he is NOT helping.

That’s no good — that’s terrible in-fact.

I can’t be “for” that.

Because one of the best things about God is that we do not merely have a Jesus who can help us as he has time to help (if something of our life or faith happens to catch his attention). We have the Holy Spirit — a helper just like Christ — to be with us (each and every one of us) always.

And what I am reminded of most Sundays is that — even though I love Jesus very, very, very much…I don’t want who I am in-Christ to be merely about what I receive from Jesus. What I was reminded of in my conversations with various saints throughout the weekend (especially the people who actually asked with love and attention how I was doing and were ready for more than a one or two word answer), is that life in Christ — which is life in the Spirit — is not just a life where we receive something from Christ,

it is a life where we receive from the Spirit in such a way that God is no longer an external God who has to reach out and touch, but an internal presence free to work from within: to love us, and to work through us to love others in a beautiful and powerful way. The Spirit also helps us to love each other.

That’s a beautiful thing.


And it’s in those quiet moments — when there are tears without words and hugs that don’t let go — that I am reminded of just how great and beautiful a grace it is to have Christ’s love, by the Spirit, to each other, through us.

Love to you my friend. I’ve lost count at this point the line-itemed list of things I should be praying about for you…but I’ve got the big things. I’m trusting the Spirit to chink the cracks on my prayers for you my friend. The point of intercessory prayer isn’t the list or the words, but the love behind the words.

We were talking about prayer in Sunday School class yesterday, and I commented that my own life is always full of situations that need a lot of prayer because God sends me places no one else is willing to go (because he knows I will go without asking a bunch of questions about what will happen or what’s in it for me). It’s about having the kind of faith to know to jump when you can’t see a pool or water in the pool because you know that with God there is a pool and there is water in the pool, even when you don’t know how far you’re going to fall before you find it.

I call it faith, but a lot of people call it stupid.

Love to you, and may God’s peace, love, hope, and comfort be with you strongly in all things this day. Blessings, love, and hugs to you my friend.

[The credit for the amazingly beautiful icon, “The Visitation” was too long to be a caption for that image, but it was so amazing and inspiring I need to put credit where credit is due:]

4 thoughts on “Voting down “real” Jesus

  1. Pingback: REBLOG: (in)courage >> “Sometimes Love Is Spoken Mainly In Our Tears” | St. Val the Eccentric

  2. Good thoughts—I kind of think that if you pick real Jesus—who is of the Father and that the Father is of Him—then He’s still able to transcend being with just you plus everyone else—kind of how God, the Father is with both you and I, all at once as we need… plus the billions of others in need…all at once—He’s good that way 🙂
    and if you pick the Holy Spirit—He too transcends and is doing that whole omnipotent thing all at once—the supreme multi tasking 🙂
    but once again–this is just my humble “2 cents” ……..

    • But that was never the question on the table — flesh & blood Jesus bound by the parameters of his human “container” or the Holy Spirit? I have no doubt that Jesus can do amazing things, but by no means can he magically subdivide himself to be many places simultaneously, nor can he ignore his human needs for things like sleep. God the Father is great, but he us also supremely holy and not as approachable as Christ. There is no more personal and approachable person of the Godhead than the one who makes a home within, whose very nature lends itself to being at all places at all times.

      Further, it is by the power of the Spirit that we can find and recognize God’s love for us in the love of others. That us something Jesus cannot give us. Jesus can only give us himself and his love. In my mind, the only thing more beautiful than that is the way the Holy Spirit can take God’s perfect love and intertwine it with more love as we love each other by allowing the Spirit to love through us. It’s a deeply beautiful and holy thing, one of the best ways we show God’s image to each other.

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